Posts by Bob Loblaw

however, after reviewing letters of family going back to wwii, it is fascinating to read what dad was doing on board the aircraft carrier in the pacific on any old day, what mom was cooking on her ever-steaming range, how i was dealing with the roller coaster of emotion at bethel [mom saved all my letters], how nana wrote that she would not study with the witnesses [per my request] but 'here are some mittens i knitted for you when you canvass new york with your magazines.

Bob Loblaw

I just left the dentist,...and now I'm beginning to feel the after affects of the root canal. Once I get home the darvaset should do away with the throbbing ache.

What hurts the most is that my insurance only covers $1000 for the year. After all four procedures I have to go through to fix everything I will owe between 2-5k.

Ugh....

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I Need A Comeback Statement

by journey-on in

when i suggested to my jw sister that the wts has caused so much pain and division in our family, she told me it was because my brothers and i had made the choice to leave.

we were responsible for the division---not the society.

we are the ones that chose to leave the love and protective shelter of jehovah's organization and we are the ones that have the choice to return to the fold.. i need an intelligent comeback, preferably one that will plant a seed, not one too sarcastic.

Bob Loblaw

are you da'd or df'd? if you are, something like this:

Yes, I made the choice to leave the organization but that doesn't mean my love has changed for you or our family.

The organization that you believe in mandates that you are not allowed to have a relationship with me. You are not allowed to show love for me.

The only way you can show love for me is if I perform works. I would have to attend six months to a year of meetings without uttering a peep to anyone else in attendance. I would not be able to have a bible study with anyone in order to get my many questions answered. Finally I would have to write a letter of repentance to men and potentially be reinstated based on their opinions. After all of this,...then you can show your love for me.

I'm sorry but this is conditional love,...this isn't the genuine love that the bible speaks of. 1 Cor. 13

"love keeps no record of wrongs"

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Will there be death in paradise?

by Bob Loblaw in

so, from what i remember,...after armageddon, those righteous jw's who make it through will have to clean up the utter devestation.

imagine 9/11 on a world-wide scale.

they also (from what i remember) will not be miraculously perfect right away.

Bob Loblaw

Leolaia,

Wow,...thanks for that scripture. Very interesting. I've never read that before.

How is this scripture interpreted in main stream christianity?

This scripture, I imagine, isn't touched upon in the JW's.

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Will there be death in paradise?

by Bob Loblaw in

so, from what i remember,...after armageddon, those righteous jw's who make it through will have to clean up the utter devestation.

imagine 9/11 on a world-wide scale.

they also (from what i remember) will not be miraculously perfect right away.

Bob Loblaw

Right Zico,...I think this is something that most JW's have no real concept of. I'm not sure if the society has answers to these questions but I think they've left a lot of room in this area for potential critical thinking.

If you set up these scenarios and asked 100 different JW's these questions,...I think that we would probably get 100 different answers. Whatever the local congregational legend is at the time would be the answer. "Well Brother long in the tooth said we would reach perfection in 200 yrs."

It just goes to show that there isn't much in the way of thinking outside the box.

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Will there be death in paradise?

by Bob Loblaw in

so, from what i remember,...after armageddon, those righteous jw's who make it through will have to clean up the utter devestation.

imagine 9/11 on a world-wide scale.

they also (from what i remember) will not be miraculously perfect right away.

Bob Loblaw

Ah,...thanks para,

So it sounds like a rather quick process to perfection. First the mind,...which will reach perfection basically overnight and then the body will follow. Interesting.

I wonder how fast people will grow their legs back.

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Will there be death in paradise?

by Bob Loblaw in

so, from what i remember,...after armageddon, those righteous jw's who make it through will have to clean up the utter devestation.

imagine 9/11 on a world-wide scale.

they also (from what i remember) will not be miraculously perfect right away.

Bob Loblaw

So, from what I remember,...after armageddon, those righteous JW's who make it through will have to clean up the utter devestation. Imagine 9/11 on a world-wide scale. They also (from what i remember) will not be miraculously perfect right away. I believe they are supposed to grow towards perfection.

How long will this process take?

Cleaning up the aftermath of armageddon with bare hands will be one heck of difficult job. Cuts, scrapes, and bruises will occur, not to mention, the chance of infection setting in. With all the hospitals and pharmaceutical companies destroyed their won't be much in the way of caring for the wounded.

Therefore,...am I right in saying that wounds, infection, and sickness may still be a factor in the early days of the new system? What if this leads to death? What if there is an accident during the cleanup and a righteous JW falls hard enough to be killed?

In the JW mindset, would this person die? Say this person fell off the top of the rubble of a fallen skyscraper and that their fall was from 8 stories high. Would they just get back up and say, "oops", or would they die?

If they die, would Jehovah resurrect them?...and how many resurrections does one person get?

I mean this whole cleanup up business is going to be some tough work. Think about how many construction workers die in a year.

If JW's are in their original flesh and blood and they are not quite perfect yet how is it that they wouldn't get hurt or were somehow safe from death?

Lurkers,...help me with my questions.